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Wayne Robins's avatar

That quote from Hickey about how the Stones operate is part of my brain matter. Whenever I hear the Stones, I think of Keith, Bill, Charlie operating in milliseconds of attention. Also: when I got my late career M.A. from NYU in 1999, Air Guitar was one of the texts. Professor Christgau was a major Hickey advocate. In turn, teaching criticism at St. John’s U. In Queens in the two thousand and teens, used Hickey’s Pirates and Farmers as a reference text. And also, Joe, I totally buy your album of Stones covers, some of which I haven’t heard. Finally, their best B-side for personal reasons is “Congratulations,” circa 1964.

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That is fantastic. I love all of the quotes that you've included, and suit the topic.

The final comment about, "'I don’t think it’s possible,' Charlie said. 'Rock swings with a heavy backbeat and it’s done that for twenty-five years. It’s supposed to be fun and that’s why I like it. It’s dance music. But it hasn’t really progressed musically.'"

Makes me think of this line that I saw in a review (for a CD which I ended up not getting) which also talks about the tension between musical experimentation in a musical genre which is designed to fit a certain social function: https://www.mustrad.org.uk/reviews/m_hayes.htm

"The problem is that Irish music doesn’t work like the music of India, or West Africa, or Greenwich Village. The melodies are too formulaic. The idiom is structurally and rhythmically too circumscribed by its function as dance music to afford the musician much room for improvisation. A little rumination on that point may be in order, for jazz was also a dance music once and it functioned in ways not very different from Irish music. In the 1940s a number of musicians, Miles Davis among them, broke out of the then prevalent chordal limitations of the idiom and turned it from extrovert dance music into cerebral art. If Charlie Parker and Miles Davis and Dizzy Gillespie could do that with jazz, why can't Eileen Ivers and Seamus Egan and Martin O’Connor and Martin Hayes not do the same with Irish music?

Well, the only ingredients which the moulders of modern jazz inherited from earlier forms were rhythm and swing, and a system of improvisation built around the notion of chord progression. Jazz is quite simply not constrained by inbuilt structures in the way that Irish music is. ... The musician who wishes to break out of the cage of Irish music has to find his own key. He has to find it within the melodies and rhythms of his inherited tradition. That is what Martin Hayes appears to have done and that is why this disc eventually won me over."

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